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July 31, 2026

Chaos and Complexity Economics (with J. Doyne Farmer)

EconTalk · J. Doyne Farmer · 65 min

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Physicist J. Doyne Farmer argues that standard economic models miss what chaos theory and agent-based simulation can capture about real human behavior. Russ Roberts pushes back throughout, which keeps the conversation honest rather than one-sided. It's a genuine debate about what economics is even trying to predict.

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Can economics ever be a genuinely predictive science, or is complexity too fundamental to model away?

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